Warrior Talent Ratings - Revision history

Onderduiker at 16:00, 18 May 2011

2011-05-18T16:00:13Z

Dan Solo at 23:03, 18 September 2006

2006-09-18T23:03:10Z

Dan Solo at 23:02, 18 September 2006

2006-09-18T23:02:48Z

Olon97: /* Improved Heroic Strike / Deflection / Improved Rend */

2005-10-06T18:27:31Z

Improved Heroic Strike / Deflection / Improved Rend

Olon97: /* Improved Heroic Strike / Deflection / Improved Rend */

2005-10-06T18:25:38Z

Improved Heroic Strike / Deflection / Improved Rend

Olon97: /* Anger Management */ boosted rating

2005-02-22T23:23:52Z

Anger Management: boosted rating

Olon97: /* Improved Cleave / Piercing Howl / Blood Craze / Improved Battle Shout */

2005-02-22T19:07:27Z

Improved Cleave / Piercing Howl / Blood Craze / Improved Battle Shout

Olon97: /* Blood Craze */ averaging in imp. T.clap ratings to reflect Artega's comments. Moving comments themselves to details page.

2005-02-22T19:01:50Z

Blood Craze: averaging in imp. T.clap ratings to reflect Artega's comments. Moving comments themselves to details page.

Olon97: /* Bloodthirst */ (adjusted ratings based on Artega's feedback (assumed all 9s) moving Artega's comments to details.

2005-02-22T18:43:18Z

Bloodthirst: (adjusted ratings based on Artega's feedback (assumed all 9s) moving Artega's comments to details.

Olon97: (fixed relative links)

2005-02-22T18:38:55Z

(fixed relative links)

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−	'''These pages are quite out of date, and were written while we were all still leveling our toon is dec 04/ jan 05. left for posterity's sake.'''Rather than contributing a talent "build", I thought I would have us break down and evaluate the Warrior talents individually.	+	'''These pages are quite out of date, and were written while we were all still leveling our toon is dec 04/ jan 05. left for posterity's sake.'''
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		+	Rather than contributing a talent "build", I thought I would have us break down and evaluate the Warrior talents individually.

	Each Talent has a Utility ranking (how good it is, on a 1-10 scale, ignoring pre-requisites), a Cost ranking (1 being too many poor utility pre-requisites, 10 meaning it's worth the point investment to get it nomatter what), and an Overall ranking (subjective combination of the two factors).		Each Talent has a Utility ranking (how good it is, on a 1-10 scale, ignoring pre-requisites), a Cost ranking (1 being too many poor utility pre-requisites, 10 meaning it's worth the point investment to get it nomatter what), and an Overall ranking (subjective combination of the two factors).

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−	Rather than contributing a talent "build", I thought I would have us break down and evaluate the Warrior talents individually.	+	'''These pages are quite out of date, and were written while we were all still leveling our toon is dec 04/ jan 05. left for posterity's sake.'''Rather than contributing a talent "build", I thought I would have us break down and evaluate the Warrior talents individually.

	Each Talent has a Utility ranking (how good it is, on a 1-10 scale, ignoring pre-requisites), a Cost ranking (1 being too many poor utility pre-requisites, 10 meaning it's worth the point investment to get it nomatter what), and an Overall ranking (subjective combination of the two factors).		Each Talent has a Utility ranking (how good it is, on a 1-10 scale, ignoring pre-requisites), a Cost ranking (1 being too many poor utility pre-requisites, 10 meaning it's worth the point investment to get it nomatter what), and an Overall ranking (subjective combination of the two factors).

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 '''Improved Heroic Strike''' - 3 points<br>
-'''Utility Rank:''' 7/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+'''Utility Rank:''' 3/10 (1 person rating)<br>
-''A nice talent, but depends on a skill use. Also a pre-requisite for an excellent passive talent.''<br>
+''If HS is going to be your main rage dump (i.e. low levels or specialized fast 1h build) it's OK, otherwise avoid.''<br>
-'''Cost Rank:''' 6/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+'''Cost Rank:''' 5/10 (1 person rating)<br>
-''When you're tight on points, you may be able to live without it. You can still use the plain skill.''<br>
+''3 points that could be better spent elsewhere, but luckily only 3''<br>
-'''Overall Rank:''' 7/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+'''Overall Rank:''' 4/10 (1 person rating)<br>
-''Belongs in most Arms builds, but other builds can skip it.''
+''People may giggle if you admit you have it, but they won't throw you out of the group...''<br>

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 '''Improved Heroic Strike''' - 3 points<br>
-*'''Utility Rank:''' 2/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+'''Utility Rank:''' 7/10 (1 person rating)<br>
-''Steaming Pile of... Well if you use it early and get rid of it on a respec it's OK''<br>
+''A nice talent, but depends on a skill use. Also a pre-requisite for an excellent passive talent.''<br>
-*'''Cost Rank:''' 5/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+'''Cost Rank:''' 6/10 (1 person rating)<br>
-''3 points that could be better spent elsewhere, but luckily only 3''<br>
+''When you're tight on points, you may be able to live without it. You can still use the plain skill.''<br>
-*'''Overall Rank:''' 3/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+'''Overall Rank:''' 7/10 (1 person rating)<br>
-''People may giggle if you admit you have it, but they won't throw you out of the group...''<br>
+''Belongs in most Arms builds, but other builds can skip it.''

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 '''Anger Management'''<br>
-*'''Utility Rank:''' 5/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+'''Utility Rank:''' 7/10 (1 person rating)<br>
-''It's all about pacing...''<br>
+''It's mostly about pacing, but extra rage during combat is always hard to turn down.''<br>
-*'''Cost Rank:''' 5/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+'''Cost Rank:''' 8/10 (1 person rating)<br>
 ''You have to have 5 points in Tactical Mastery to get here, but there are worse things you could do with your talent points''<br>
-*'''Overall Rank:''' 5/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+'''Overall Rank:''' 7/10 (1 person rating)<br>
-''You won't know if you need this until you have a better feel for your personal play style.''
+''You won't know if you need this until you have a better feel for your personal play style (& rage needs).''

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 ''Not a good value for this far up the Fury tree.''<br>
 *'''Overall Rank:''' 4/10 (2 people rating)<br>
-''Something to throw in as an afterthought on a Fury plan. "Worse than improved thunder clap."''<br>
+''Something to throw in as an afterthought on a Fury plan. "Worse than improved thunder clap." (ouch)''<br>

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 '''Blood Craze'''<br>
-*'''Utility Rank:''' 5/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+*'''Utility Rank:''' 3.5/10 (2 people rating)<br>
 ''Probably ranked higher than it's worth due to my love of passives. A mediocre talent that is constantly helping you without your having to think about it is better than a fantastic talent that you never remember to use.''<br>
-*'''Cost Rank:''' 4/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+*'''Cost Rank:''' 3.5/10 (2 people rating)<br>
 ''Not a good value for this far up the Fury tree.''<br>
-*'''Overall Rank:''' 5/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+*'''Overall Rank:''' 4/10 (2 people rating)<br>
-''Something to throw in as an afterthought on a Fury plan.''<br>
+''Something to throw in as an afterthought on a Fury plan. "Worse than improved thunder clap."''<br>

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 '''Bloodthirst'''<br>
-*'''Utility Rank:''' 3/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+*'''Utility Rank:''' 6/10 (2 people rating)<br>
-''If you get the killing blow (doubtful in a group), you'd better hustle to get that next attack in because the bloodthirst state wears off quickly.''<br>
+''If you get the killing blow (doubtful in a group), you'd better hustle to get that next attack in because the bloodthirst state wears off quickly. Alternate view: great for grinding green mobs solo.''<br>
-*'''Cost Rank:''' 1/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+*'''Cost Rank:''' 5/10 (2 people rating)<br>
-''Yes, it's 1 more point, but by taking it you are losing all possibility of either concussion blow or sweeping strikes. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?!?''<br>
+''Yes, it's 1 more point, but by taking it you are losing all possibility of either concussion blow or sweeping strikes. Some consider that a fair tradeoff.''<br>
-*'''Overall Rank:''' 2/10 (1 person rating)<br>
+*'''Overall Rank:''' 5.5/10 (2 people rating)<br>
-''Just because it's at the top of the talent tree doesn't mean it's good (as we'll see in protection too).''<br>
+''Just because it's at the top of the talent tree doesn't mean it's good (as we'll see in protection too). Good if you're the one doing all the killing without significant downtime.''<br>
 == PROTECTION ==

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-=== Improved Heroic Strike / Deflection / Improved Rend === [http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Improved_Heroic_Strike_.2F_Deflection_.2F_Improved_Rend Details]
+=== Improved Heroic Strike / Deflection / Improved Rend === [http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Improved_Heroic_Strike_.2F_Deflection_.2F_Improved_Rend Details]
 '''Improved Heroic Strike''' - 3 points<br>
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-=== Improved Charge / Tactical Mastery / Improved Thunder Clap === [http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Improved_Charge_.2F_Tactical_Mastery_.2F_Improved_Thunder_Clap Details]
+=== Improved Charge / Tactical Mastery / Improved Thunder Clap === [http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Improved_Charge_.2F_Tactical_Mastery_.2F_Improved_Thunder_Clap Details]
 '''Improved Charge'''<br>
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 === Improved Overpower / Anger Management / Deep Wounds ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Improved_Overpower_.2F_Anger_Management_.2F_Deep_Wounds Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Improved_Overpower_.2F_Anger_Management_.2F_Deep_Wounds Details]
 '''Improved Overpower'''<br>
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 === Two-Handed Weapon Specialization / Impale ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Two-Handed_Weapon_Specialization_.2F_Impale Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Two-Handed_Weapon_Specialization_.2F_Impale Details]
 '''Two-Handed Weapon Specialization'''<br>
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 === Axe Specialization / Sweeping Strikes / Mace Specialization / Sword Specialization ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Axe_Specialization_.2F_Sweeping_Strikes_.2F_Mace_Specialization_.2F_Sword_Specialization Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Axe_Specialization_.2F_Sweeping_Strikes_.2F_Mace_Specialization_.2F_Sword_Specialization Details]
 '''Sweeping Strikes'''<br>
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 === Polearm Specialization / Improved Hamstring ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Polearm_Specialization_.2F_Improved_Hamstring Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Polearm_Specialization_.2F_Improved_Hamstring Details]
 '''Polearm Specialization'''<br>
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 === Mortal Strike ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Mortal_Strike Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Arms_Talents#Mortal_Strike Details]
 '''Mortal Strike'''<br>
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 === Booming Voice / Cruelty ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Booming_Voice_.2F_Cruelty Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Booming_Voice_.2F_Cruelty Details]
 '''Booming Voice'''<br>
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 === Improved Demoralizing Shout / Unbridled Wrath ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Improved_Demoralizing_Shout_.2F_Unbridled_Wrath Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Improved_Demoralizing_Shout_.2F_Unbridled_Wrath Details]
 '''Improved Demoralizing Shout'''<br>
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 === Improved Cleave / Piercing Howl / Blood Craze / Improved Battle Shout ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Improved_Cleave_.2F_Piercing_Howl_.2F_Blood_Craze_.2F_Improved_Battle_Shout Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Improved_Cleave_.2F_Piercing_Howl_.2F_Blood_Craze_.2F_Improved_Battle_Shout Details]
 '''Improved Cleave'''<br>
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 === Improved Execute / Enrage ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Improved_Execute_.2F_Enrage Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Improved_Execute_.2F_Enrage Details]
 '''Improved Execute'''<br>
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 === Improved Slam / Death Wish / Improved Intercept ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Improved_Slam_.2F_Death_Wish_.2F_Improved_Intercept Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Improved_Slam_.2F_Death_Wish_.2F_Improved_Intercept Details]
 '''Improved Slam'''<br>
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 === Improved Berserker Rage / Flurry ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Improved_Berserker_Rage_.2F_Flurry Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Improved_Berserker_Rage_.2F_Flurry Details]
 '''Improved Berserker Rage'''<br>
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 === Bloodthirst ===
-[http://www.aphasic.com/wow/basinwiki/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Bloodthirst Details]
+[http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Warrior_Fury_Talents#Bloodthirst Details]
 '''Bloodthirst'''<br>